Posts by Muddy Waters

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Where you are in your life now.....What would you have preferred .... To be left in ignorance ? ...Or to know the truth about the truth

by smiddy in

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i think possibly their are a few valid reasons for either options to this question ,depending on a number of factors .. such as how old you might be, how long you have devoted your life to the "truth" as you believed it .

?....how it may affect your mental/physical health and well being.?.

how it will affect your financial position in your life ,?

Muddy Waters

I got sucked into this religion when I was around 20, at a terrible time in my life and the JWs seemed so wonderful, and I wanted my life to be sparkly and clean and wonderful like theirs, I could not see that it was an illusion (or delusion).

After almost 30 years in, I am glad to be out of it, though I am glad for the good things it gave me, and yes, there were good things and people, the most wonderful being my husband, who is also out - and so I feel blessed.

It feels like the whole world has opened up, and I am discovering anew that it can be a delightful, lovely place without the gloom and doom cloud of Armageddon and Jehovah's terrible day of anger looming constantly over our heads.

It was hurtful, to learn TTAT - the truth about the truth - I felt so betrayed and used, I felt taken as a fool. I read Crisis of Conscience with tears pouring down my face.

I would never want to become a Borg drone again, despite the difficulties of reintegration back into humanity and society. (An aside -- Can really identify with Seven of Nine, lol!! When we watched Star Trek Voyager, her stories would often make me cry. I hope I'm not the only one who cries watching Star Trek, lol!)

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and now, trying out my new signature quote, lol...

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"May God, or the universe, or airborne spaghetti, or energies or wavelengths or frequencies, or quantum particles that somehow attract things to us, or telepathic manipulation by aliens -- bless you. And may you have peace and a good day. And if you are not having a good day, may you find at least a moment of something good in your day."

- Muddy

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Signature Quote - what do you think?

by Muddy Waters in

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i apologize for the self-serving nature of this post.. i first said this to a lovely person here to encourage her and add a bit of humour to a harsh situation, but i've fallen in love with my own words, ha, and would like to use a variation of what i said to her as my new signature quote.

it's a bit long, and could become tiresome eventually, but do you forum members think that you might like (or could tolerate, heh) seeing this on my posts?.

.... "may god, or the universe, or airborne spaghetti, or energies or wavelengths or frequencies, or quantum particles that somehow attract things to us, or telepathic manipulation by aliens -- bless you.

Muddy Waters

I apologize for the self-serving nature of this post.

I first said this to a lovely person here to encourage her and add a bit of humour to a harsh situation, but I've fallen in love with my own words, ha, and would like to use a variation of what I said to her as my new signature quote.

It's a bit long, and could become tiresome eventually, but do you forum members think that you might like (or could tolerate, heh) seeing this on my posts?

here it is:

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"May God, or the universe, or airborne spaghetti, or energies or wavelengths or frequencies, or quantum particles that somehow attract things to us, or telepathic manipulation by aliens -- bless you. And may you have peace and a good day. And if you are not having a good day, may you find at least a moment of something good in your day."

- Muddy

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Why did you choose Jehovahs Witnesses?

by vinman in

i'm wondering why ones on this forum initially became jw's.

if you were born in, why did you make it "your own"?

if you became one later, what was your draw and driving force?

Muddy Waters

My experience was a bit like yours, Kate Wild. I was 20, but in a totally bad place in my life, everything was going to hell, and a young beautiful pioneer sister began calling on me.

I wanted to be like her. She was so put together, so happy (she really was! She was one of those super-pioneers whose whole life was the truth), and her life was all sparkly and wonderful... There finally seemed to be a beautiful purpose to life... a wonderful loving God to serve (I became totally indoctrinated very quickly!), a whole association of brothers and sisters worldwide... and a paradise earth!

I bought it, hook, line, and sinker, and wouldn't escape for close to 30 years as I slowly began to wake up again.

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"May God, or the universe, or airborne spaghetti, or energies or wavelengths or frequencies, or quantum particles that somehow attract things to us, or telepathic manipulation by aliens -- bless you. And may you have peace and a good day. And if you are not having a good day, may you find at least a moment of something good in your day."

- Muddy

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The bridge burning has begun.

by sparrowdown in

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i was feeling particularly hopeless about the whole jws being assholes thing and sick to death of pretending so ....

i rang my sister and told her that i no longer believe jws have the truth and the phone went silent, when i asked her to say something she just said if that was the case then she would have to hang up on me and then proceeded to indeed hang up..

so i texted her back immediately with fu..

Muddy Waters

Love the replies and support you've gotten here, Sparrow :)

and I've fallen in love with my own blessing to you, so much so that I may use it as a signature quote, lol! But you will always know that I said it to you first...

Stay true to yourself, be happy... and use sunscreen (haha, as per the song.... )

--- "May God, or the universe, or energies or wavelengths or frequencies, or quantum particles that somehow attract things to us, or telepathic manipulation of aliens -- bless you." - Muddy

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The bridge burning has begun.

by sparrowdown in

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i was feeling particularly hopeless about the whole jws being assholes thing and sick to death of pretending so ....

i rang my sister and told her that i no longer believe jws have the truth and the phone went silent, when i asked her to say something she just said if that was the case then she would have to hang up on me and then proceeded to indeed hang up..

so i texted her back immediately with fu..

Muddy Waters

Sparrow down, do you have people on the outside, besides us here, who you can talk with or get support from?

I hope you have good friends or any extended family on the outside..?

I admire your taking a stand and wanting to be done with hiding who you are! I know how hard that is, and you always hope for the best. May God, or the universe, or whatever energies exist, or quantum particles that somehow attract things to us, or frequencies, or telepathic manipulation of aliens (threw that last one in there for the heck of it, lol, and to see if you were paying attention! :) ) -- bless you.

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Day Text - Sept. 19, 2015 - Obey even if not appear practical, sound, or strategic from a human standpoint - Reminder from WT 2013 Nov.15

by Muddy Waters in

day text -- saturday, september 19 - "he will certainly bring about deliverance from the assyrian."mic.

today, jehovah certainly has provided an abundance of spiritual men to shepherd his precious sheep, to strengthen his people for the future attack of the modern-day assyrian.

the most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of the assyrian is that of strengthening our faith in god and helping our brothers to do the same.

Muddy Waters

And then what's up with all this Assyrian stuff anyway? Did they not just say that they have done away with types and anti types, unless the scriptures clearly say there is a connection? Buncha yahoos. But follow us anyway and do exactly what we say, even though we change everything and our understanding of everything ....

Another scripture comes to mind, from Psalms 146: 3,4 -- "Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, in whom there is no salvation..."

Yahoos. Idiots.

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Day Text - Sept. 19, 2015 - Obey even if not appear practical, sound, or strategic from a human standpoint - Reminder from WT 2013 Nov.15

by Muddy Waters in

day text -- saturday, september 19 - "he will certainly bring about deliverance from the assyrian."mic.

today, jehovah certainly has provided an abundance of spiritual men to shepherd his precious sheep, to strengthen his people for the future attack of the modern-day assyrian.

the most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of the assyrian is that of strengthening our faith in god and helping our brothers to do the same.

Muddy Waters

DAY TEXT -- Saturday, September 19 - "He will certainly bring about deliverance from the Assyrian."—Mic. 5:6.

Today, Jehovah certainly has provided an abundance of spiritual men to shepherd his precious sheep, to strengthen his people for the future attack of the modern-day “Assyrian.” The most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of “the Assyrian” is that of strengthening our faith in God and helping our brothers to do the same. When “the Assyrian” attacks, the elders must be absolutely convinced that Jehovah will deliver us. At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. Now is the time for any who may be putting their trust in secular education, material things, or human institutions to adjust their thinking. w13 11/15 3:16, 17 Examining the Scriptures—2015

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What is the most bizarre counsel you received as a JW, from a JW?

by Funchback in

there were many addressed to me.

for example, i once had a sister tell me i was gambling because i liked playing skill crane (the machine where you have to try to pick up prizes like stuffed animals) at the arcade.

i then fired back a her: "you saw the r-rated movie 'backdraft.

Muddy Waters

On a hot summer day I was wearing a sleeveless blouse to the KH and an elder counselled me about my bra strap showing.

Another time I had some foot surgery done, and the brothers KNEW about my problem. My first meeting back, I had a slipper on my foot and a week later, there was a local needs part about the need to wear proper attire to the KH, to show respect for Jehovah's house of worship and not be overly-casual, as "some" might do, for example, by wearing slippers to the KH.

It's like death by a thousand cuts.

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Anthony Morris III: Jehovah Blesses Obedience

by wifibandit in

http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201509_1_video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf9j7qs7bvm.

obey.

Muddy Waters

Hm. Suddenly this thought popped into my mind: "Man leading man to his injury...." Now where have I heard that one before...?

edited to add: you know, I think the NWT puts it even more dramatically: "Man dominating man to his injury..." !!! - from Jeremiah something.

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For me the worst thing is not having a helper anymore

by John Aquila in

one of the things that gave me confidence in life was that i believed i had the almighty creator/god watching over me, directing me, guiding my every step, protecting me from harm, and answering my prayers.

i now know that is not the case anymore.

i finally stopped praying.

Muddy Waters

... We were like Dumbo believing in the Magic Feather.....

I miss that comfort too.... Believing that I "knew".... that we had the answers... That we had the goddamn f***ing truth.

And now to feel so all alone... It hits me hard ... Yet I also feel that we are all in this together, though each person faces his own unknown destiny.

And I too, am now next in line, that "buffer" is all gone, my mommy having passed away the past few months... An experience I have yet to talk about on here. She was never a JW, thank god. I got into that stupidity all by myself....

The world feels smaller .... and I understand the phrase more and more that "each man is an island."